Last month, Milwaukee Record contributor Maggie Iken compiled a nifty list of non-touristy things to do in Milwaukee without drinking. “Five months ago, I stopped drinking,” Iken wrote. “Coincidentally, my social life also got a lot tamer/lamer around the same time. Living in a city known for beer, I find myself staying in almost every night and not having a lot of options for things to do on the weekends.” From there, she recommends everything from taking a tarot card class at Waxwing and floating at Float Milwaukee to fixing your bike at Vulture Space and volunteering at WMSE.

The piece was incredibly well-received (it turns out a lot of people are looking for things to do in the Brew City that don’t involve brew), and even made the rounds at TMJ4’s delightfully upbeat morning chat show The Morning Blend. On Wednesday, Iken dropped by the Blend to chat about her piece with hosts Molly Fay and Tiffany Ogle. Milwaukee Record‘s Matt Wild was along, too, to show off his bottle of Big Mac Special Sauce that was handled by that guy who’s eaten a shitload of Big Macs. Watch the segment below.